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Post by Erik Rupp on Aug 28, 2009 8:46:52 GMT -5
Some bands have had a lot of line-up changes, some have just had some key members replaced, but which ones worked out, and which ones didn't?
Deep Purple - The first set of line-up changes resulted in one of the most popular and influential Rock bands of the early 70's with their famed MKII line-up. That was a great line-up change (replacing singer Rod Evand and bass player Nick Simper with Ian Gillan and Roger Glover). The next line-up change, while somewhat successful (Gillan and Glover out, David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes in), wasn't the huge artistic and commercial success that the previous line-up had been. The band has made multiple changes since their reunion, with the most notable being Steve Morse replacing Ritchie Blackmore. Morse is a great guitar player who comes from a completely different perspective than Blackmore, but it's worked very well on an artistic level. When Jon Lord retired Don Airey was brought in and there was very little change as Airey was always influenced by Lord, and he's continued on in the same tradition, basically. The current line-up is very, very good.
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Post by John, Your Pal on Aug 28, 2009 22:52:31 GMT -5
The newer DP stuff is better than most of their old stuff.
Go listen to their album Bananas. Stupid title. Good album.
The Gillan/Blackmore stuff was usually one or two great songs per album and lots of filler.
Oh and over the years I've decided that Blackmore was a highly overrated guitarist, at least with DP and Rainbow. (I haven't heard his new thing with his wife.) Very one dimensional, even when going from rock to blues.
Steve Morse is one of the very best in the world, as underrated as RB is overrated.
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Post by donconca on Oct 22, 2009 0:45:54 GMT -5
1) The Gillan/Blackmore stuff was usually one or two great songs per album and lots of filler. 2) Oh and over the years I've decided that Blackmore was a highly overrated guitarist. 1) Agreed. As to Ian Gillan, dude was a highly underrated vocalist. If you like that old version of DP, I recommend a DVD of a Dutch TV show from around 1972. It's in B&W, which is weird, but everything is live and Gillan's ability to replicate the highest falsetto on Child in Time is truly impressive. 2) I think Blackmore might be the most overrated guitarist ever. Was he fast? Of course. Was he also fluid? No. Listen carefully to many of his solos and you will hear a grating choppiness. Plus the guy was reportedly a major prick, driving original vocalist Rod Evans, then Gillan and others out of the band because they just couldn't stand to work with him. Big egos are common in rock but Blackmore's was apparently REALLY big and REALLY annoying. |
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Post by Erik Rupp on Nov 2, 2009 9:16:16 GMT -5
2) Oh and over the years I've decided that Blackmore was a highly overrated guitarist. 2) I think Blackmore might be the most overrated guitarist ever. Was he fast? Of course. Was he also fluid? No. Listen carefully to many of his solos and you will hear a grating choppiness. Plus the guy was reportedly a major prick, driving original vocalist Rod Evans, then Gillan and others out of the band because they just couldn't stand to work with him. Big egos are common in rock but Blackmore's was apparently REALLY big and REALLY annoying. I think Blackmore brought some new techniques and styles to Rock than hadn't been used in the genre before. Was he super fluid? No, but he was doing something new in the context of Rock and had no one before him to learn from and emulate. Others since Blackmore have been more fluid because they learned his stuff early on and went from there. As to Blackmore being a big time jerk, well, Ronnie James Dio just went over that in a recent interview, and he said that Blackmore treated people really badly. The constant firing of musicians was just the tip of the iceberg, apparently... |
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Post by roadrat15 on Jul 11, 2010 7:30:36 GMT -5
An obvious change for the better was the change in Thin Lizzy's lineup from guitarist Eric Bell to the twin axe attack of Scott Gorham & Brian Robertson.
It's my opinion, that the firing of Dave Mustaine & the hiring of Kirk Hammett was a stroke of genius for all concerned.
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Post by Erik Rupp on Jul 11, 2010 21:50:20 GMT -5
An obvious change for the better was the change in Thin Lizzy's lineup from guitarist Eric Bell to the twin axe attack of Scott Gorham & Brian Robertson. Man, talk about a band going from fairly good to brilliant - that was the case with Thin Lizzy (although it did take a couple albums for them to really catch their stride with that line-up). Yeah, Metallica didn't do too badly with Hammett, and Mustaine ended up doing pretty darned well with Megadeth. A win/win for sure. |
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Post by roadrat15 on Jul 12, 2010 7:29:29 GMT -5
Two changes from the same band that greatly improved it : The replacing of AC/DC's first vocalist Dave Evans (who was dreadfully crap) with the mighty Bon Scott; & early bassist Mark Evans with Cliff Williams.
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